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Athis Strider · Nov 16, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38

On several missions, (with good pugs) the players asked the Rangers to load skills of opposite nature. For example Winter and Greater Conflagaration.
This is supposed to cause more damage, but I dont understand why?
My only guess is that the monsters healer can only deal with one condition at a time.
You would think these would cancell eachother.

Can some one explain?

Savio · Nov 16, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Greater Conflagration changes physical-type attacks to Fire-type attacks. Winter changes elemental-type attacks, including Fire-type, to Cold-type. So with both of them up, you change physical attacks and all elemental spells to Cold attacks. In Hell's Precipice and other places with Fire-type enemies, it will increase the damage you do since they're weak to Cold-type attacks.

Athis Strider · Nov 16, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

So is this more effective than 2 Rangers with winter?

Farin · Nov 16, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

It is indeed.

Josh · Nov 16, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

I would've thought only 1 Winter would come in effect..?

It can't change it anymore? Physical to Ice, Elemental to Ice, it can't change it anymore with 2 set up?

Epinephrine · Nov 16, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Josh

I would've thought only 1 Winter would come in effect..?

It can't change it anymore? Physical to Ice, Elemental to Ice, it can't change it anymore with 2 set up?

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Originally Posted by Athis Strider

So is this more effective than 2 Rangers with winter?

Savio · Nov 16, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Josh

It can't change it anymore? Physical to Ice, Elemental to Ice, it can't change it anymore with 2 set up?

Winter doesn't change physical attacks to Ice, just elemental attacks. That's why you throw in a Greater Conflag, to first change physical to Fire.

Athis Strider · Nov 16, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Ok now I think I understand. Its a convertion. Greater Conflagaration allows Winter to take advantage of the physical attack by converting it into elemental.
So all attacks are now elemental based , wich equals more damage because you are taking advantage of all the ppl in the group. Right?

Catalin Dracul · Nov 16, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Correct

Athis Strider · Nov 16, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Thank you guys!

Nov 16, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38	#1
Athis Strider Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Profession: R/Mo	Fire and Ice On several missions, (with good pugs) the players asked the Rangers to load skills of opposite nature. For example Winter and Greater Conflagaration. This is supposed to cause more damage, but I dont understand why? My only guess is that the monsters healer can only deal with one condition at a time. You would think these would cancell eachother. Can some one explain?

Nov 16, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#2
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Greater Conflagration changes physical-type attacks to Fire-type attacks. Winter changes elemental-type attacks, including Fire-type, to Cold-type. So with both of them up, you change physical attacks and all elemental spells to Cold attacks. In Hell's Precipice and other places with Fire-type enemies, it will increase the damage you do since they're weak to Cold-type attacks.

Nov 16, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45	#3
Athis Strider Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Profession: R/Mo	So is this more effective than 2 Rangers with winter?

Nov 16, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47	#4
Farin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Delta Formation [DF] Profession: W/	It is indeed.

Nov 16, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47	#5
Josh Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: England, UK Profession: D/Mo	I would've thought only 1 Winter would come in effect..? It can't change it anymore? Physical to Ice, Elemental to Ice, it can't change it anymore with 2 set up?

Nov 16, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#8
Athis Strider Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Profession: R/Mo	Ok now I think I understand. Its a convertion. Greater Conflagaration allows Winter to take advantage of the physical attack by converting it into elemental. So all attacks are now elemental based , wich equals more damage because you are taking advantage of all the ppl in the group. Right?

Nov 16, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#9
Catalin Dracul Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: [DSA] Profession: W/Mo	Correct

Nov 16, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#10
Athis Strider Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Profession: R/Mo	Thank you guys!